morchu
04-19 11:48 AM
No. You cannot get bachelors in india with 14 years.
The Diploma route for bachelors is this...
10+3(diploma)+3(bachelors).
For some other schools
10+3(diploma)+4(bachelors).
So in effect, the diploma route also puts you in 16 years / 17 years for Bachelors of Eng.
It might be extremely difficult to claim 14 years equivalent as US bachelors.
-Morchu
Ummm.. I did not know that one can do a diploma after 10th grade in India and after that, a year to get bachelors? You are right... its not very clear from the original post.. and can easily be misinterpreted as (10+2+3+1) which is 16 years of education.
OP, could you please confirm if this is the case with your background.
The Diploma route for bachelors is this...
10+3(diploma)+3(bachelors).
For some other schools
10+3(diploma)+4(bachelors).
So in effect, the diploma route also puts you in 16 years / 17 years for Bachelors of Eng.
It might be extremely difficult to claim 14 years equivalent as US bachelors.
-Morchu
Ummm.. I did not know that one can do a diploma after 10th grade in India and after that, a year to get bachelors? You are right... its not very clear from the original post.. and can easily be misinterpreted as (10+2+3+1) which is 16 years of education.
OP, could you please confirm if this is the case with your background.
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svam77
08-10 12:23 PM
Yes, I did use LS.
But my motive was not to jump the line as I told my company attorney to purposefully find an LC from this year or last year. And since it was a multibillion dollar company with some xx thousand employees. They were able to find one.
Not everyone's motives is to jump the line. I did this because I didnt want to wait another 10 years to apply for I 485.
And on the top, dont even think that all who did LS were able to jump the line. LS involves lot of scrutiny and it was always safer to use one's own labor.
Its so funny that some people think that people who cannot prove themselves for what ever reasons (education etc) with their own labor use LS. hehehe. This is even more riskier.
And it was always legal to do it. And may be many people and employers misused it. Shout at those people.
As for me, my labor was going nowhere and the company with which I worked for the past few years found an LS for me which was from last year PD and I do not regret doing it.
And I bet, people who had an opportunity like me would do it.
And also, THE THREAD WAS NOT OPENED WITH A TITLE "WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT LS, SHOULD IT BE BANNED". There were a number of threads on this forum where you can show these kinds of opinions. This thread was opened for a different purpose.
And moveover LS is banned now. So dont waste your energyy but use it for some good causes IV is planning for.
But my motive was not to jump the line as I told my company attorney to purposefully find an LC from this year or last year. And since it was a multibillion dollar company with some xx thousand employees. They were able to find one.
Not everyone's motives is to jump the line. I did this because I didnt want to wait another 10 years to apply for I 485.
And on the top, dont even think that all who did LS were able to jump the line. LS involves lot of scrutiny and it was always safer to use one's own labor.
Its so funny that some people think that people who cannot prove themselves for what ever reasons (education etc) with their own labor use LS. hehehe. This is even more riskier.
And it was always legal to do it. And may be many people and employers misused it. Shout at those people.
As for me, my labor was going nowhere and the company with which I worked for the past few years found an LS for me which was from last year PD and I do not regret doing it.
And I bet, people who had an opportunity like me would do it.
And also, THE THREAD WAS NOT OPENED WITH A TITLE "WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT LS, SHOULD IT BE BANNED". There were a number of threads on this forum where you can show these kinds of opinions. This thread was opened for a different purpose.
And moveover LS is banned now. So dont waste your energyy but use it for some good causes IV is planning for.
Ramba
02-12 02:58 PM
The adv of 485 route compare to CP is EAD/AP/AC21. In CP, the applicant is getting immigrant visa in a foreign post/consulate. How can USCIS give EAD/AP for a person who is staying outside of US to grant EAD/AP?. There is no technical ground for this request. If you/IV want to lobby, lobby for EAD/AP for the guys whose 140 was approved and staying in US legally on a non-immigrant visa. This may be possible thro, USCIS regulation w/o law change.
Though, law does not force any one to chose only 485 route, while you anyone already in US. Very very few guys will opt for CP while in US due to lot of hurdles in CP. Forget about retrogression, EAD, AP. Opting CP, cost you to fly to home country to get immigrant visa. There is no gurentee that US consulate will give you a immigrant visa based on approved 140 in CP process. That is always risk of denial at interview. It is something similar like, H1B approval by USCIS does not guartee the H1B visa at consulate.
Though, law does not force any one to chose only 485 route, while you anyone already in US. Very very few guys will opt for CP while in US due to lot of hurdles in CP. Forget about retrogression, EAD, AP. Opting CP, cost you to fly to home country to get immigrant visa. There is no gurentee that US consulate will give you a immigrant visa based on approved 140 in CP process. That is always risk of denial at interview. It is something similar like, H1B approval by USCIS does not guartee the H1B visa at consulate.
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optimystic
10-29 09:08 PM
Thanks for the good luck . I really need it !
I am hoping that it would be something simple as well.
- I am guessing it might be about employment verification (since its been a long time),
OR
- Current job description (probably they want to make sure I am in the same job role or going to be in the same job role for which GC was applied) . Which is more or less the case. My law-firm/company did a good job of declaring a generic (still O*net compliant) job title/description which luckily encompasses the range of roles (compliant with the job description) I have been doing over the last 8 years. And if required, at this point, I am at a stage where I am willing to take a demotion or something if required to work on the job role that matches the GC temporarily, if thats what it takes. And I am sure my company will fully support me. There is no dearth of requirement for fresh coders/developers at our team/company. They would probably be happy to oblige :D . But I hope it doesn't come to that. I think there is some leniency allowed in the growth of job scope/promotion etc over the course of years it takes to get the GC. Gurus any comments ?
OR
- some clarification about overall H1B status or something across all these years (although I know for sure my H1B status, I-94 etc has been perfectly clean so far)
OR
- Medical checkups may have expired and they need new ones? (my medical reports are from June 2007)
OR
- Ability to pay ! I don't think this would be the case. My company is a well reputed/respected Fortune 50 company. So hopefully USCIS IOs are also aware that my company would not have ability to pay issues! But who knows, in these economic crisis, they probably doubt every company !
OR
- Questions about Mergers/aquisitions/layoff announcements at my company?? I don't think these events by themselves matter/affect my I-485 case after the I-140 stage. My lawyer had clarified to the same effect. But they might trigger a request for employement verification.
What could be other reasons that you guys can think off?
Update:
It turned out to be request for latest employment verification letter.
Here are the words quoted from the RFE letter
You must submit a currently dated letter from your intended permanent employer, describing your present job duties and position in the organization, your proffered position (if different from your current one), the date you began employment and the offered salary or wage. This letter should be in the original and signed by an executive or officer of the organization who is authorized to make or confirm an offer of permanent employment. The letter must also indicate whether the terms and conditions of your employment-based visa petition (or labor certification) continue to exist.
So, couple of questions to the gurus.
a) What happens if current job title & duties are different from that of the proffered position? I am with the same employer since the beginning. How much of an allowance/leeway is given for growth of job role/scope?
b) What happens if there has been around $25k increase in pay from that mentioned for the proffered position? Is that an issue?
I am hoping that it would be something simple as well.
- I am guessing it might be about employment verification (since its been a long time),
OR
- Current job description (probably they want to make sure I am in the same job role or going to be in the same job role for which GC was applied) . Which is more or less the case. My law-firm/company did a good job of declaring a generic (still O*net compliant) job title/description which luckily encompasses the range of roles (compliant with the job description) I have been doing over the last 8 years. And if required, at this point, I am at a stage where I am willing to take a demotion or something if required to work on the job role that matches the GC temporarily, if thats what it takes. And I am sure my company will fully support me. There is no dearth of requirement for fresh coders/developers at our team/company. They would probably be happy to oblige :D . But I hope it doesn't come to that. I think there is some leniency allowed in the growth of job scope/promotion etc over the course of years it takes to get the GC. Gurus any comments ?
OR
- some clarification about overall H1B status or something across all these years (although I know for sure my H1B status, I-94 etc has been perfectly clean so far)
OR
- Medical checkups may have expired and they need new ones? (my medical reports are from June 2007)
OR
- Ability to pay ! I don't think this would be the case. My company is a well reputed/respected Fortune 50 company. So hopefully USCIS IOs are also aware that my company would not have ability to pay issues! But who knows, in these economic crisis, they probably doubt every company !
OR
- Questions about Mergers/aquisitions/layoff announcements at my company?? I don't think these events by themselves matter/affect my I-485 case after the I-140 stage. My lawyer had clarified to the same effect. But they might trigger a request for employement verification.
What could be other reasons that you guys can think off?
Update:
It turned out to be request for latest employment verification letter.
Here are the words quoted from the RFE letter
You must submit a currently dated letter from your intended permanent employer, describing your present job duties and position in the organization, your proffered position (if different from your current one), the date you began employment and the offered salary or wage. This letter should be in the original and signed by an executive or officer of the organization who is authorized to make or confirm an offer of permanent employment. The letter must also indicate whether the terms and conditions of your employment-based visa petition (or labor certification) continue to exist.
So, couple of questions to the gurus.
a) What happens if current job title & duties are different from that of the proffered position? I am with the same employer since the beginning. How much of an allowance/leeway is given for growth of job role/scope?
b) What happens if there has been around $25k increase in pay from that mentioned for the proffered position? Is that an issue?
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bluekayal
03-09 12:48 PM
Report back
Two people from the CA group met the Constituent Services Manager at the Congresswoman's office. The staffer was very familar with Immigration issues, and the functioning of backlog elimination centers. It was a fascinating meeting at a very personal level with good exchange of views. It is good to remember we meet as individuals with our own histories, struggles and successes.
On IV goals
There was more agreement on some of IV's goals than others. For example it might be easier to "Automatically recapture unused EB Visa number from previous year." That goal may have better chance to win out. So we may need to move this item up. So in terms of priority, starting with what the staffer agreed with, Iv's priorities would something like this.
1. Transparency of DOL-BEC and USCIS functioning.
2. Automatically recapture unused EB Visa Numbers from previous years.
3.Convert all 1 year extensions of H-1B, EAD, and Travel Document (Advance Parole) of applicants in backlog to 3 year extension.
4. Ability to file I-485 even without Visa Number availability
5. Allow applicants with advanced degrees from the US, or who have worked for more than 3 years in the US on H-1B, to automatically apply for adjustment of status without regard to EB annual limit.
6. Eliminate dependents from EB annual limit.
7. Increase EB annual limit.
We shared the Ombudsaman's report and the couple of pages from the President's economic report of 2005. They were both very useful. It was the first time the staffer had seen the Ombudsman's report. The staffer wanted to use these at at a meeting she is attending :) Thank you IV team, especially Berkeley Bee for ferreting out key bits of information.
On speeding up Labor certification
When one of us said congress's intention for LC is 21-60 days, the staffer replied that was before 911. How can we make this happen and speeded up the work in PBEC/DBEC?
The staffer also mentioned that a lot of time is spent on "background check" and mentioned it was suggested it might be better for FBI to do it. But of course the FBI had other things to do and that suggestion didn't fly.
One of us mentioned the clogging due to 245-i. LCs could be speeded up -- if the paper work of those on the 245-1 (Apr.,25,2001) track is different from us, then could those be handled differently/ in another place to speed up our LCs in PBEC and DBEC.
Finally, the staffer will let the congresswoman know our concerns.
thanks
Bluekayal
Two people from the CA group met the Constituent Services Manager at the Congresswoman's office. The staffer was very familar with Immigration issues, and the functioning of backlog elimination centers. It was a fascinating meeting at a very personal level with good exchange of views. It is good to remember we meet as individuals with our own histories, struggles and successes.
On IV goals
There was more agreement on some of IV's goals than others. For example it might be easier to "Automatically recapture unused EB Visa number from previous year." That goal may have better chance to win out. So we may need to move this item up. So in terms of priority, starting with what the staffer agreed with, Iv's priorities would something like this.
1. Transparency of DOL-BEC and USCIS functioning.
2. Automatically recapture unused EB Visa Numbers from previous years.
3.Convert all 1 year extensions of H-1B, EAD, and Travel Document (Advance Parole) of applicants in backlog to 3 year extension.
4. Ability to file I-485 even without Visa Number availability
5. Allow applicants with advanced degrees from the US, or who have worked for more than 3 years in the US on H-1B, to automatically apply for adjustment of status without regard to EB annual limit.
6. Eliminate dependents from EB annual limit.
7. Increase EB annual limit.
We shared the Ombudsaman's report and the couple of pages from the President's economic report of 2005. They were both very useful. It was the first time the staffer had seen the Ombudsman's report. The staffer wanted to use these at at a meeting she is attending :) Thank you IV team, especially Berkeley Bee for ferreting out key bits of information.
On speeding up Labor certification
When one of us said congress's intention for LC is 21-60 days, the staffer replied that was before 911. How can we make this happen and speeded up the work in PBEC/DBEC?
The staffer also mentioned that a lot of time is spent on "background check" and mentioned it was suggested it might be better for FBI to do it. But of course the FBI had other things to do and that suggestion didn't fly.
One of us mentioned the clogging due to 245-i. LCs could be speeded up -- if the paper work of those on the 245-1 (Apr.,25,2001) track is different from us, then could those be handled differently/ in another place to speed up our LCs in PBEC and DBEC.
Finally, the staffer will let the congresswoman know our concerns.
thanks
Bluekayal
nozerd
12-29 09:59 AM
Before I approach Ombudsman is it wise to get any sort of clearence or green signal from your lawyer ? Can you approach them directly without a lawyer ?
Thanks
Thanks
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number30
10-27 03:59 PM
Hi I just talked to customer service representative, she said that It is either due to a security check or Department of Homeland security trying out different exercises before approving the case. So Please wait for some more time and give a check. when the applications went to security check, the similar kind of response you will get. If your case falls under a specific section we will put the section in that.
If you need more information or you are worried please take an info pass otherwise please check back with us later.
The only thing that came to my mind is regarding verification of degree certificates or experience letters mentioned on your Biographic Information form. Go to Local office and check.
If you need more information or you are worried please take an info pass otherwise please check back with us later.
The only thing that came to my mind is regarding verification of degree certificates or experience letters mentioned on your Biographic Information form. Go to Local office and check.
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gcbikari
06-02 02:18 PM
Done. Thanks.
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desi3933
02-19 02:14 PM
Almost all holders of the CA have a 3 year BCom. We have had, as far as we know, 100% approvals showing the CA = US Masters with the proper documentation and a professor's expert opinion letter. Also with AMIETE.
Sheila -
Please refer to this pdf from CA web site
www.icai.org/resource_file/42prof.df.pdf
CA as well as ICWA are post high school (10+2) programs. Therefore they can not deemed as Master Degree level courses. In fact, I did my ICWA along with my graduation from IIT. Just because most people do it after BCom does not make it Masters level program.
In the case when/if USCIS determines CA India not to be of Masters level program, it can affect even the approved I-140 petitions.
__________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
Sheila -
You have not responded to my post so far.
How can CA/ICWA be equivalent to MS programs as they are post high school courses? These courses do not require graduation for admission.
Have a good day!
Sheila -
Please refer to this pdf from CA web site
www.icai.org/resource_file/42prof.df.pdf
CA as well as ICWA are post high school (10+2) programs. Therefore they can not deemed as Master Degree level courses. In fact, I did my ICWA along with my graduation from IIT. Just because most people do it after BCom does not make it Masters level program.
In the case when/if USCIS determines CA India not to be of Masters level program, it can affect even the approved I-140 petitions.
__________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
Sheila -
You have not responded to my post so far.
How can CA/ICWA be equivalent to MS programs as they are post high school courses? These courses do not require graduation for admission.
Have a good day!
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snhn
12-13 09:07 AM
The irony is that my date is EB3 Non RIR World Oct 2001. I have crossed that by 10 monts now. But my labor is still not approved. Its still stuck at Dallas backlog center. Its always going to be this or that..
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sjkumar
05-01 11:10 AM
Defence deals , trade , outsourcing and immigration have always been very closely related all these years . The main reason that Obama was in India was to sell American wares and the No 1 list of his agenda was the $10.1 Billion MMRCA deal apart from future contracts on India's Nuclear Power generation program.
India on the other hand too has always lobbied the US on H1Bs and overall outsourcing issue and the deliberate maligning of Indian outsourcing companies was responded to with a warning by India that the US will be seriously disadvantaged in its other trade with India should US politicians continue to target Indian IT companies and IT engineers particularly.
This was clear in the Doha talks starting in 2007 and later years in where India chose to bring specifically the H1-B visa issue always , although the Doha talks might not have been the right forum to bring such issues. ( see link below )
India Links Visa Flap with Doha Talks (http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/may2007/gb20070518_492934.htm)
"The country's Commerce & Industry Minister says stories of work visa abuse by outsourcing companies could hurt chances for a global trade deal "
So the carrot of "Global trade" with India was being used very effectively so far by India to lobby for getting other concessions in the outsourcing industry and I am not sure how much this is going to be possible now .
In reality the level of Indo US relations has reached has never been so low in recent times and the below articles aptly details out the causes and the sentiment.
Nothing positive in Indo-US ties since nuclear deal - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-29/india/29487082_1_nuclear-deal-nuclear-liability-law-indian-nuclear-power-sector)
"Its unclear whether he(Obama) will listen to his advisers to pay India back for its decision(MMRCA)."
Outsourcing.. Immigration ...Trading.. India Opening couple of more sector for MNC to invest all are related.. Shortly we will hear news about India Opening Retail or some other sector for MNCs to invest or open shop.. Remember one of India's biggest Export is Skilled Man power .. be it IT engineers,Nurses,Plumbers etc...
India on the other hand too has always lobbied the US on H1Bs and overall outsourcing issue and the deliberate maligning of Indian outsourcing companies was responded to with a warning by India that the US will be seriously disadvantaged in its other trade with India should US politicians continue to target Indian IT companies and IT engineers particularly.
This was clear in the Doha talks starting in 2007 and later years in where India chose to bring specifically the H1-B visa issue always , although the Doha talks might not have been the right forum to bring such issues. ( see link below )
India Links Visa Flap with Doha Talks (http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/may2007/gb20070518_492934.htm)
"The country's Commerce & Industry Minister says stories of work visa abuse by outsourcing companies could hurt chances for a global trade deal "
So the carrot of "Global trade" with India was being used very effectively so far by India to lobby for getting other concessions in the outsourcing industry and I am not sure how much this is going to be possible now .
In reality the level of Indo US relations has reached has never been so low in recent times and the below articles aptly details out the causes and the sentiment.
Nothing positive in Indo-US ties since nuclear deal - Times Of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-04-29/india/29487082_1_nuclear-deal-nuclear-liability-law-indian-nuclear-power-sector)
"Its unclear whether he(Obama) will listen to his advisers to pay India back for its decision(MMRCA)."
Outsourcing.. Immigration ...Trading.. India Opening couple of more sector for MNC to invest all are related.. Shortly we will hear news about India Opening Retail or some other sector for MNCs to invest or open shop.. Remember one of India's biggest Export is Skilled Man power .. be it IT engineers,Nurses,Plumbers etc...
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pointlesswait
01-04 09:27 AM
well..if he converts to a Mormon and moves to Iowa..he can have many wifes:D
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desighee
01-04 10:10 AM
yes don't wish for two wives.
One wife itself is sufficient to cause life long agony and u r wishing for too!
Indeed a brave fellow and should be given a GC on national interest waiver
One wife itself is sufficient to cause life long agony and u r wishing for too!
Indeed a brave fellow and should be given a GC on national interest waiver
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Sakthisagar
10-26 04:04 PM
Another news making. Advice to all of Youngster Indians and Indians here by the India's outsourcing chop shop IT messihah Infosys Chief.
Don't look at IT industry as means to settle abroad: Narayana Murthy - The Economic Times (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/Dont-look-at-IT-industry-as-means-to-settle-abroad-Murthy/articleshow/6815589.cms)
Don't look at IT industry as means to settle abroad: Narayana Murthy - The Economic Times (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/Dont-look-at-IT-industry-as-means-to-settle-abroad-Murthy/articleshow/6815589.cms)
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tikka
06-07 12:54 PM
PLEASE CONTRIBUTE IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY!
IV NEEDS FUNDS FOR LOBBYING EFFORTS
thank you
IV NEEDS FUNDS FOR LOBBYING EFFORTS
thank you
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letstalklc
11-03 11:13 AM
EB2 I will remain same
EB3 I will move little bit...
Hoping for the Jan bulletin if at all any qurterly spillover.....
some one from Immigration Voice should get the info USCIS regarding thequrterly spillover.
EB3 I will move little bit...
Hoping for the Jan bulletin if at all any qurterly spillover.....
some one from Immigration Voice should get the info USCIS regarding thequrterly spillover.
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Gravitation
12-13 12:49 PM
Of course, we are no more than modern day white collar slaves. We toil here for years, our spouses aren't even allowed to have a social security number, not to mention drivers licenses in many states. We are not even allowed to visit our families in our home countries without having the risk of not getting the visa re-stamped in the consulates abroad. How pathetic! Can't we all move to Canada and setup a colony for free slaves?
Look, the situation is terrible but let's not get carried away. We're still here by choice. We bargain going through all this for having the life we have here and not having the energy enough to unroot and head to Canada, Aus or Europe.
Look, the situation is terrible but let's not get carried away. We're still here by choice. We bargain going through all this for having the life we have here and not having the energy enough to unroot and head to Canada, Aus or Europe.
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ramus
07-02 04:03 PM
at the end please put total..
Thanks..
Thanks..
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gcsngh
08-31 08:22 PM
Most of us Indians..sad to say are self centred...chicken hearted community...awakening has to come from inside...you can take the horse to the pond but cannot force it to drink it...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Guig0
02-04 02:17 PM
were did you see 45� corners in mine?
ilwaiting
12-12 02:18 PM
hehe check this out. New EB category. With PD Sep'06.
Iraqi & Afghani Translators.
Very Funny.
Iraqi & Afghani Translators.
Very Funny.
