singhsa3
08-16 09:09 AM
Folks,
I am going to share with you what I have done regarding refilling and why I have done that.
Call me a paranoid or something else but the fact of the matter is that time period between July 2nd and Aug 17th is a golden opportunity that may not present itself for several years now.
Though the chances of my application getting rejected due to mail room error is less but in the game of probability everyone of us stand equal chances of getting hit by a thunder bolt.
Just a side note - They install lightning rod on buildings to protect from lightening even though chances are 1 in 700,000. Well, my odds are much worse than that. Hence, I need to protect myself.
Regarding filling multiple 485 applications, Rajeev Khanna has categorically stated in one of his meetings that he is doing it. And we all know he is a person of good reputation.
There are two scenarios I can think about:
a) My July 2nd is accepted: In such cases either my later filled application is automatically rejected or they will send me a letter asking me to choose one.
Someone on one of his/her post had mentioned about stop payment idea. He may have a point. Call USCIS and you will find out that only thing they will do is reject your application, which is what you want if your earlier application is already in process.
Somebody also stated just like what they did in H-1B cases on 04/02/07, they may reject both applications, well; H-1B case was different due to lottery system.
b) My July 2nd application is rejected: Well, I just protected myself from a thunder bolt.
Having suffered in Green Card race for so long, my risk taking capacity has greatly been reduced. I am not advising or urging anyone to take any action. I am just sharing what I did.
I am going to share with you what I have done regarding refilling and why I have done that.
Call me a paranoid or something else but the fact of the matter is that time period between July 2nd and Aug 17th is a golden opportunity that may not present itself for several years now.
Though the chances of my application getting rejected due to mail room error is less but in the game of probability everyone of us stand equal chances of getting hit by a thunder bolt.
Just a side note - They install lightning rod on buildings to protect from lightening even though chances are 1 in 700,000. Well, my odds are much worse than that. Hence, I need to protect myself.
Regarding filling multiple 485 applications, Rajeev Khanna has categorically stated in one of his meetings that he is doing it. And we all know he is a person of good reputation.
There are two scenarios I can think about:
a) My July 2nd is accepted: In such cases either my later filled application is automatically rejected or they will send me a letter asking me to choose one.
Someone on one of his/her post had mentioned about stop payment idea. He may have a point. Call USCIS and you will find out that only thing they will do is reject your application, which is what you want if your earlier application is already in process.
Somebody also stated just like what they did in H-1B cases on 04/02/07, they may reject both applications, well; H-1B case was different due to lottery system.
b) My July 2nd application is rejected: Well, I just protected myself from a thunder bolt.
Having suffered in Green Card race for so long, my risk taking capacity has greatly been reduced. I am not advising or urging anyone to take any action. I am just sharing what I did.
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arc
09-04 07:19 PM
Guys what airline could one fly from San Jose? Which one have best connecting times so one can reach and leave at decent time? which airport is close?
Is there a Motel nearby at the relly start point, what time does the rally end, and what flight have people from CA booked for getting back?
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Is there a Motel nearby at the relly start point, what time does the rally end, and what flight have people from CA booked for getting back?
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sanbaj
03-26 10:25 AM
Hello BharatPremi,
I was in the Interfiling situation for the last four months but EB2 India was Retrogressed and then Unavailable as you know. But, I got the advice from my Lawyer that I should Interfile and not wait for the EB2 India dates to get current. So, at the end of Feb '08 I decided to Interfile with my lawyer's help.
With the cover letter as suggested in various earlier posts he made sure he sent the Original Approval Notice of the I140 and not a copy.
The main text of the letter was:
In accordance with 8 C.F.R. �204.5(e) , the applicant hereby request your office to amend the priority date to that of as indicated on the enclosed original approved I-140 petition on behalf of the applicant.
In the footnotes, this was included:
1. A petition approved on behalf of an alien under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act accords the alien the priority date of the approved petition for any subsequently filed petition for any classification under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act for which the alien may qualify. In the event that the alien is the beneficiary of multiple petitions under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act, the alien shall be entitled to the earliest priority date.
It was beginning of March when this was done. Then in mid-March, I got the great news that EB2 India is current for my PD. We will see what happens in April '08 !!!
No news from USCIS yet on the Interfiling app. My lawyer suggested to call after a month of the application's RD.
Waiting on GC for more than 6 years. I hope this is the last thing to do before AOS is approved for us and we receive the PR Card.
Hope this info helps.
Best of Luck for your case.
I was in the Interfiling situation for the last four months but EB2 India was Retrogressed and then Unavailable as you know. But, I got the advice from my Lawyer that I should Interfile and not wait for the EB2 India dates to get current. So, at the end of Feb '08 I decided to Interfile with my lawyer's help.
With the cover letter as suggested in various earlier posts he made sure he sent the Original Approval Notice of the I140 and not a copy.
The main text of the letter was:
In accordance with 8 C.F.R. �204.5(e) , the applicant hereby request your office to amend the priority date to that of
In the footnotes, this was included:
1. A petition approved on behalf of an alien under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act accords the alien the priority date of the approved petition for any subsequently filed petition for any classification under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act for which the alien may qualify. In the event that the alien is the beneficiary of multiple petitions under sections 203(b) (1), (2), or (3) of the Act, the alien shall be entitled to the earliest priority date.
It was beginning of March when this was done. Then in mid-March, I got the great news that EB2 India is current for my PD. We will see what happens in April '08 !!!
No news from USCIS yet on the Interfiling app. My lawyer suggested to call after a month of the application's RD.
Waiting on GC for more than 6 years. I hope this is the last thing to do before AOS is approved for us and we receive the PR Card.
Hope this info helps.
Best of Luck for your case.
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delhirocks
07-19 03:52 PM
There you go...If you found this discussion and board useful, please consider contributing.
Thanks to every person who answered this post. I managed to get an appointment in mumbai for Aug 2nd. This will give enough time to send necessary document from my end and also give enough breathing to file the application.
Thanks to every person who answered this post. I managed to get an appointment in mumbai for Aug 2nd. This will give enough time to send necessary document from my end and also give enough breathing to file the application.
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chanduv23
11-16 02:47 PM
Good stuff, We will all do this. As such, most of the reqruiters, when they contact you on phone they say "My client is not interested in hiring h1b candidates, you must have at least a Green Card or a EAD or must be a US citizen", I was under the impression that a company has the right to proceed with considering you for a job based on whether you are a EAD or a GC or a citizen
Can IVs lawyers give more information about this?
Can IVs lawyers give more information about this?
dummgelauft
11-03 12:32 PM
I actually stopped crying about it but I definitely think USCIS should send us Candy coupons to make up for the wait. :p
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neverbefore
07-14 11:38 AM
Your spouse applied for H4/H1? Which one?
Applied for H1B. We already have the H1B approval notices. We also have EAD/AP. Still we got dragged into this.
The H1B sponsoring company is a large and famous Biopharma company with billions in market cap. AOS is also through the I-140 from that company.
Everything is way above board for us. Still we got stuck!
Applied for H1B. We already have the H1B approval notices. We also have EAD/AP. Still we got dragged into this.
The H1B sponsoring company is a large and famous Biopharma company with billions in market cap. AOS is also through the I-140 from that company.
Everything is way above board for us. Still we got stuck!
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04-13 11:14 AM
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god_bless_you
12-04 07:05 PM
India has PPF/PF and that money will go in you PPF/PF account, its not a black hole, infact it pays the highest interest and its secure. its very easy to get money out of your PF account. i took it out of my PPF account before i came to the US and promptly spent all :)its another topic that SS repatriation will never be approved, especially retroactively.
I do not know in which city of India you took out your PPF.,
But I heard you have to pay atleast 5% to get PPF back in Hyd.,
Hope corruption will not be that high by next 20 years in India!!
I do not know in which city of India you took out your PPF.,
But I heard you have to pay atleast 5% to get PPF back in Hyd.,
Hope corruption will not be that high by next 20 years in India!!
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kumar1
12-21 03:32 PM
Guys, we are talking about USCIS - This agency issued visa extension to Mohammad Atta after his death - the guy who rammed AA plane into World Trade Center (9/11). Now can you imagine that? On one hand entire FBI and CIA was behind this tragedy and USCIS had no idea what they were doing. In my personal opinion, do not communicate with them in case you use AC-21. Just wait, if RFE comes RFE comes, if it gets approved it gets approved, if it gets denied, I am outta here! Read this if you have some time.
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Mohamed_Atta#Immigration_inspection
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/Mohamed_Atta#Immigration_inspection
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mhb
07-06 06:24 PM
tommorow what time (provide Time Zone also)
same time 5.30 pm central NBC weekend news. this would be pathetic if they do not air the interview!!!:mad:
same time 5.30 pm central NBC weekend news. this would be pathetic if they do not air the interview!!!:mad:
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aroranuj
04-19 12:59 PM
The 1 year of BCom was not required to enroll in the Diploma. However since my field of expertise is Management we were able to combine the 1st year of BCom with my 3 years of Diploma of XYZ Management. My Labor Cert also states that academic studies equivalent to a US Bachelors.
It is important that everyone understand that each case is different. In this case was the 1 year of the BCom required for admission into the diploma program? Otherwise in my opinion (and anything can happen with any one adjudicator at USCIS) it souns like you are combining, which is allowed for EB3 when so stated on the Labor Cert.
It is important that everyone understand that each case is different. In this case was the 1 year of the BCom required for admission into the diploma program? Otherwise in my opinion (and anything can happen with any one adjudicator at USCIS) it souns like you are combining, which is allowed for EB3 when so stated on the Labor Cert.
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enggr
09-28 01:47 AM
I thank everyone for taking interest in my case and giving valuable advices.
Yes, the lawyer should have checked this and filed on EB3 to begin with. If he had suggested a potential hindrance like this, I wouldn't have agreed to file the case under EB2. The way it happened was, employer and attorney requested all my details and decided to go with EB2. I didn't even know the complete requirements of EB2 at that time as I had a belief that EB2 is only for Masters degree. Because the employer + attorney recommended EB2 I signed up for that.
I have requested my employer to start a new PERM as soon as possible.
I am very much looking forward for interfiling my old I-485 with the new I-140. My attorney is saying its not possible. (Maybe he's very less experienced in these matters).
"during that time hope your new I-140 comes through (for the PERM you are starting now) and then interfile that I-140 to your existing 485"
Can you please shed some more light on that so that I can argue with my attorney. Any links regarding this would be really helpful. Any piece of information/case history would be helpful to argue with my lawyer.
AkhilMahajan,
The university gives different marksheets for supplementary exam. There's a consolidated one too.
insbaby,
You are right. EB3 is the safest one. I never tried to take advantage of EB2. The whole mistake was due to improper knowledge from my side about EB2 and wrong evaluation by the attorney. I am looking for all ways to convert this case into EB3. My attorney is saying that we can't file a new I-140 under EB3. The only way to continue this case is to request the EB3 conversion as part of the RFE response. Then, INS should agree to the change in a return letter which can be followed by the I-140 application amendment or new I-140 application.
quizzer,
The I-140 filing date was Nov 2006.
Ramba,
You are very correct. I have requested my attorney to change the category from EB2 to EB3. he said it can be done only as a formal request during RFE response. The attorney has requested my employer to modify the job requirement from EB2 to EB3. I think we are safe at the labor certification as it doesn't ask progressive experience. Labor is asking for Bachelors degree and 5 years of experience which I have. I have no plans to move out of H1b until I-140 is approved.
cnndwag,
I didn't run away. Today I was running behind my attorney and employer to save this case under EB3. I didn't fake my experience as I finished my course well before starting my first job. IO caught the discrepancy which should have been caught by my attorney long before. Just to re-iterate I never tried to expedite the process by filing under EB2. In fact I was ignorant about EB2 till the case was filed.
Dreamworld,
I am very disappointed by the law you mentioned
"PERM does not allow to change from EB2 to EB3"
Can you send me some links to read more in this respect? But fact is a fact. I appreciate you pointing out things like this.
One of my friend tole me yesterday to request DOL (dept. of labor) to request for a reclassification which should come in 3 weeks. But my lawyer said that classification doesn't happen at labor level and all it matters there is what is specified in newspaper ad and labor requirement (bachelors and 5 yrs exp).
Yes, the lawyer should have checked this and filed on EB3 to begin with. If he had suggested a potential hindrance like this, I wouldn't have agreed to file the case under EB2. The way it happened was, employer and attorney requested all my details and decided to go with EB2. I didn't even know the complete requirements of EB2 at that time as I had a belief that EB2 is only for Masters degree. Because the employer + attorney recommended EB2 I signed up for that.
I have requested my employer to start a new PERM as soon as possible.
I am very much looking forward for interfiling my old I-485 with the new I-140. My attorney is saying its not possible. (Maybe he's very less experienced in these matters).
"during that time hope your new I-140 comes through (for the PERM you are starting now) and then interfile that I-140 to your existing 485"
Can you please shed some more light on that so that I can argue with my attorney. Any links regarding this would be really helpful. Any piece of information/case history would be helpful to argue with my lawyer.
AkhilMahajan,
The university gives different marksheets for supplementary exam. There's a consolidated one too.
insbaby,
You are right. EB3 is the safest one. I never tried to take advantage of EB2. The whole mistake was due to improper knowledge from my side about EB2 and wrong evaluation by the attorney. I am looking for all ways to convert this case into EB3. My attorney is saying that we can't file a new I-140 under EB3. The only way to continue this case is to request the EB3 conversion as part of the RFE response. Then, INS should agree to the change in a return letter which can be followed by the I-140 application amendment or new I-140 application.
quizzer,
The I-140 filing date was Nov 2006.
Ramba,
You are very correct. I have requested my attorney to change the category from EB2 to EB3. he said it can be done only as a formal request during RFE response. The attorney has requested my employer to modify the job requirement from EB2 to EB3. I think we are safe at the labor certification as it doesn't ask progressive experience. Labor is asking for Bachelors degree and 5 years of experience which I have. I have no plans to move out of H1b until I-140 is approved.
cnndwag,
I didn't run away. Today I was running behind my attorney and employer to save this case under EB3. I didn't fake my experience as I finished my course well before starting my first job. IO caught the discrepancy which should have been caught by my attorney long before. Just to re-iterate I never tried to expedite the process by filing under EB2. In fact I was ignorant about EB2 till the case was filed.
Dreamworld,
I am very disappointed by the law you mentioned
"PERM does not allow to change from EB2 to EB3"
Can you send me some links to read more in this respect? But fact is a fact. I appreciate you pointing out things like this.
One of my friend tole me yesterday to request DOL (dept. of labor) to request for a reclassification which should come in 3 weeks. But my lawyer said that classification doesn't happen at labor level and all it matters there is what is specified in newspaper ad and labor requirement (bachelors and 5 yrs exp).
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vin13
06-23 06:59 PM
The below link is the source for this info..
Front Row Washington � Blog Archive � U.S. Senate leader pushes immigration reform bid | Blogs | (http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/06/23/us-senate-leader-pushes-immigration-reform-bid/)
Even with enormously difficult to pass legislation on healthcare and climate change topping the Obama administration�s agenda, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid believes he can still muscle through a bill to overhaul U.S. immigration policies later this year.
President Barack Obama has said he wanted immigration reform done this year, although his own spokesman acknowledged on Monday that they may only be able to begin the debate on the issue. �I can see the president�s desire for it to happen, but understanding that � currently where we sit, the math makes that more difficult than the discussion,� said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.
But that hasn�t stopped Reid, who caught a lot of people off guard a few weeks ago when he predicted the Senate would act this year.
�I�ve said right here that we have to finish healthcare. We have to do energy before we get to immigration reform. But being third on the list is pretty good,� Reid told reporters on Tuesday. He denied that rising unemployment, expected to top 10 percent amid a deep recession, would slow reform efforts.
�What is impacting doing comprehensive immigration reform is getting floor time to do it. I think the votes are there to do it,� he said.
On Thursday, Obama will host a closed-door meeting with key lawmakers to discuss the issue and Democratic Senator Charles Schumer, chairman of the Senate Immigration Subcommittee, plans on Wednesday to outline his principles for legislation he will offer
Front Row Washington � Blog Archive � U.S. Senate leader pushes immigration reform bid | Blogs | (http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/06/23/us-senate-leader-pushes-immigration-reform-bid/)
Even with enormously difficult to pass legislation on healthcare and climate change topping the Obama administration�s agenda, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid believes he can still muscle through a bill to overhaul U.S. immigration policies later this year.
President Barack Obama has said he wanted immigration reform done this year, although his own spokesman acknowledged on Monday that they may only be able to begin the debate on the issue. �I can see the president�s desire for it to happen, but understanding that � currently where we sit, the math makes that more difficult than the discussion,� said White House spokesman Robert Gibbs.
But that hasn�t stopped Reid, who caught a lot of people off guard a few weeks ago when he predicted the Senate would act this year.
�I�ve said right here that we have to finish healthcare. We have to do energy before we get to immigration reform. But being third on the list is pretty good,� Reid told reporters on Tuesday. He denied that rising unemployment, expected to top 10 percent amid a deep recession, would slow reform efforts.
�What is impacting doing comprehensive immigration reform is getting floor time to do it. I think the votes are there to do it,� he said.
On Thursday, Obama will host a closed-door meeting with key lawmakers to discuss the issue and Democratic Senator Charles Schumer, chairman of the Senate Immigration Subcommittee, plans on Wednesday to outline his principles for legislation he will offer
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like_watching_paint_dry
02-19 10:50 AM
willwin,
What you say sounds very selfish and narrow-minded.
When I made my first contribution to IV, I was stuck in BEC-hole and clearing out BEC was my top priority but not the top priority issue IVs list. I still believed in the big common goal and believed in the IV team.
You say that you don't see any benefit from IV's goals and so you wont contribute. IV's top priority is to bring relief through legislative solutions to retrogression. Can you tell me that eliminating retrogression will not benefit CP filers? If not, then what's the excuse of your bunch to not contribute?
If you still want to stick with the above "Oh it does not directly benefit me, a CP filer, because it does not massage my foot and make me feel good" rhetoric, then hey since I'm interested only in 485, I'd have to say that not a single cent of my contribution should go towards anything other than 485.
If every 485 filer were to get that selfish and said that, it would leave out this small pool of CP filer contributions (if any) which does not cover the costs of even arming up for your proposed cause. Now, where do you want to go from here?
BTW, it sounds like the CP filers are the ones who are frustrated - not the 485 filers.
What you say sounds very selfish and narrow-minded.
When I made my first contribution to IV, I was stuck in BEC-hole and clearing out BEC was my top priority but not the top priority issue IVs list. I still believed in the big common goal and believed in the IV team.
You say that you don't see any benefit from IV's goals and so you wont contribute. IV's top priority is to bring relief through legislative solutions to retrogression. Can you tell me that eliminating retrogression will not benefit CP filers? If not, then what's the excuse of your bunch to not contribute?
If you still want to stick with the above "Oh it does not directly benefit me, a CP filer, because it does not massage my foot and make me feel good" rhetoric, then hey since I'm interested only in 485, I'd have to say that not a single cent of my contribution should go towards anything other than 485.
If every 485 filer were to get that selfish and said that, it would leave out this small pool of CP filer contributions (if any) which does not cover the costs of even arming up for your proposed cause. Now, where do you want to go from here?
BTW, it sounds like the CP filers are the ones who are frustrated - not the 485 filers.
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hazishak
08-01 11:08 AM
I don't think she will have a H1 approval notice if she is coming to US first time.
My wife is here in USA and just convert her status from F1 to H4 .And her F1 visa expiring this August. So we r planning to go Canada for Visa stamping.....
My wife is here in USA and just convert her status from F1 to H4 .And her F1 visa expiring this August. So we r planning to go Canada for Visa stamping.....
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casinoroyale
06-19 03:44 PM
But the text in the I-131 instructions is contradicting what you said.
If you have current AP, you can travel while your AP renewal is pending. AP renewal will be from the date when your current AP expire.
If you have current AP, you can travel while your AP renewal is pending. AP renewal will be from the date when your current AP expire.
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Jaime
05-27 09:06 PM
Gianik:
Please feel free to send me a private message or email me at jaimemrm2002@yahoo.com and I will be glad to help you as much as I can with immigration to Canada.
Actually, immigrating to Canada is quite simple if you are the right person that they are looking for (and from the qualifications that you described you are, trust me). Canada has a very low natality rate and their strategy is to grow through immigration. Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world after Russia, but it only has over 30 millio inhabitants. They are admitting roughly 250,000 new immigrants a year.
The first step is to take the eligibility test, which if you pass, it means that pretty much you are in (the rest is just paperwork). You can take the assesment online (as well as find a lot of information) on the CIC ("Citizenship and Immigration Canada) website at:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/assess/index.html
Many people use Canadian immigration attorneys to file their petitions, but you don't really need one (I started with oe and then fired them when I saw the process was so simple!)
After that they will as you for: police reports, a medical exam, to take the IELTS English test, etc. Finally, they will send you a passport request (it all takes at the most 1 year) and they will stamp your and your family's immigrant visas on your passports. The you have a year from the date of your medical exams to go to Canada and finalize the paperwork at the port of entry (land, air or sea port) and that's it.
What's really nice is that if you want/need to you can keep your U.S. job for up to 3 full years after becoming a Canadian permaent resident before you are required to actually move to Canada, which gives you great flexibility.
The CIC website is your best tool (you are even be able to track your case on there). Also, visit the Canadian Embassy's website of your country of origin for ay special instructions. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
Please feel free to send me a private message or email me at jaimemrm2002@yahoo.com and I will be glad to help you as much as I can with immigration to Canada.
Actually, immigrating to Canada is quite simple if you are the right person that they are looking for (and from the qualifications that you described you are, trust me). Canada has a very low natality rate and their strategy is to grow through immigration. Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world after Russia, but it only has over 30 millio inhabitants. They are admitting roughly 250,000 new immigrants a year.
The first step is to take the eligibility test, which if you pass, it means that pretty much you are in (the rest is just paperwork). You can take the assesment online (as well as find a lot of information) on the CIC ("Citizenship and Immigration Canada) website at:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/skilled/assess/index.html
Many people use Canadian immigration attorneys to file their petitions, but you don't really need one (I started with oe and then fired them when I saw the process was so simple!)
After that they will as you for: police reports, a medical exam, to take the IELTS English test, etc. Finally, they will send you a passport request (it all takes at the most 1 year) and they will stamp your and your family's immigrant visas on your passports. The you have a year from the date of your medical exams to go to Canada and finalize the paperwork at the port of entry (land, air or sea port) and that's it.
What's really nice is that if you want/need to you can keep your U.S. job for up to 3 full years after becoming a Canadian permaent resident before you are required to actually move to Canada, which gives you great flexibility.
The CIC website is your best tool (you are even be able to track your case on there). Also, visit the Canadian Embassy's website of your country of origin for ay special instructions. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
sledge_hammer
06-26 03:34 PM
Can you please explain in detail what the RFE was about? What was it that USCIS did not like about your photos?
Thanks!
Dude, You are looking at not getting a RFE based on the pics. Not that picture people or JCPenny takes great pics and make u look like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise.
:D :p
I got 2 RFE's for pictures only. Those are the only 2 RFE's till date for me.
I had real bad experience with digital pics. But there are many people who didnt have any issues. So it is all your luck.
If you have RFE, it sets u back by 2 months for the approval.
Just my 2 cents.....
Thanks!
Dude, You are looking at not getting a RFE based on the pics. Not that picture people or JCPenny takes great pics and make u look like Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise.
:D :p
I got 2 RFE's for pictures only. Those are the only 2 RFE's till date for me.
I had real bad experience with digital pics. But there are many people who didnt have any issues. So it is all your luck.
If you have RFE, it sets u back by 2 months for the approval.
Just my 2 cents.....
